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Revision as of 02:59, 10 March 2012
The C41 Native is a mid-sized knife with a drop point blade and a deep finger cutout in the handle that was introduced in 1997.
Generations
Four Native generations can be differentiated:
- Generation 1: Native Lightweight, FRN and G-10 handles, available since 1997, produced in Golden, U.S.A.
- Generation 2: Native SS, Stainless Steel handle variant, available from 1997-2007, produced in Seki-City, Japan.
- Generation 3: Native 3, thicker, ergonomic 3-D FRN handle, wire clip, and VG-10 blade. The 3rd generation of the Native is not further described in this article as Spyderco has assigned it the C78 SKU, see C78 Native III.
- Generation 4: Native 4, features a screw together construction, VG-10 blade, and is produced in Seki-City, Japan.
- Generation 5: Native5, the latest generation features a screw together construction, CPM-S35VN Full Flat grind blade, and is produced in Golden, CO.
Appearance in catalogs
The C41 Native appeared in the following catalogs (older, newer):
- 1997 Spyderco Products (C41BK with 440A steel type listed)
- 1998 Spyderco Products (C41BK)
- 1999-2001 Spyderco Products (C41BK, C41)
- 2002 Spyderco Products (C41BK, C41, also a non-existing C41BK with VG-10 is shown, released as C78)
- 2003-2005 Spyderco Products (C41BK, C41)
- 2006-2007 Spyderco Products (C41BK, C41BBK, C41)
- 2008 Spyderco Products (C41BK, C41BBK)
- 2008 Spyderco Mid-Year Product Supplement (C41CFP)
- 2009 Spyderco Products (C41BK, C41BBK, C41PPN, C41CFP)
- 2011 Spyderco Products (C41G5)
Designer
Spyderco
History, mentionings from the forums etc.
On the Spyderco forums:
- History info by Sal.
- "BEWARE Native BRK not made by Spyderco" thread. Discussion about the "BRK First Generation" Native.
- Introducing by Sal of the G-10 with shell inlay Natives in 2000.
- "Native vs. Native III" thread.
- The Spyderco Forum Knife 2009 thread.
Others:
- Go here for detailed Native history notes by "The Deacon" on his site.
Information from the Spyderco catalog on the web
C41BK:
"Engineered for the human hand, the Native's ergonomic design maximizes cutting ability while minimizing discomfort and fatigue. This model is all about combining performance and comfort. Since the portion of the knife most in contact with the user is the handle, that became key while the model was in initial development on the drawing table. We've created a handle pattern with two separate finger choils. The first choil (where the blade and handle meet) allow positioning the index finger closer to the knife's sharpened edge for control over the cutting surface. Behind the first choil, the second positions the hand farther back on the folder for dexterous cutting while pushing the blade away from you. Bi-Directional Texturing molded into the FRN handle form varying levels of steps minimizing forward or backward sliding. Carved out of the locking lever is a David Boye Dent insuring the lock remains safely engaged even when gripping the handle forcefully. A section of non-sharpened serrations line the blade's spine yield an additional slip resistant point for the thumb. The blade itself is hollow-ground CPM-S30V steel with a weight reducing swedge ground from the spine. A black steel tip-up clip can be placed ambidextrously on both sides of the handle via a barrel-shaped screw that doubles as a lanyard."[1]
See also: C41BBK[2], C41PN[3], C41TN[4], C41[5], C41CF[6], C41PPR[7], C41G5[8].
Variations
All C41 Natives have a
- Back Lock locking mechanism
- Drop Point Blade
- 50/50 choil
- deep finger cutout in the handle behind the choil
Variations of the Native Lightweight (Generation 1)
All Native Lightweights are made in Golden, U.S.A.
SKU | Handle | Edge(s) | Steel | From/To | MSRP | Note | Number made | Grind | Clip | Clip positions | Collectors club |
C41BK | Black FRN | PE PS | GIN-1/G-2 | 1997-1999 | ? | N/A | Hollow | Metal, Barrel bolt | LH/RH, TU | ||
C41BK | Black FRN | PE PS | CPM-440V | 2000-2003 | ? | Boye dent introduced in last batches | N/A | Hollow | Metal, Barrel bolt | LH/RH, TU | |
C41BK | Black FRN | PE PS | CPM-S30V | 2004- | 83.95$ (2004), 99.95$ (2009) | N/A | Hollow | Metal, Barrel bolt | LH/RH, TU | ||
C41BBK | Black FRN | PE PS | CPM-S30V black | 2005-: PS; 2006: PE | 109.95$ (2009) | N/A | Hollow | Metal, Barrel bolt | LH/RH, TU | ||
C41PSTN | Tan FRN | PS | CPM-S30V | 2006 | 74.95$ (2006) | "Operation Iraqi Freedom" on blade | N/A | Hollow | Metal, Barrel bolt | LH/RH, TU | |
C41PPN | Pink FRN | PE | CPM-S30V | 2008- | 109.95$ (2009) | N/A | Hollow | Metal, Barrel bolt | LH/RH, TU | ||
C41PPR | Purple FRN | PE | CPM-S30V | 2009 | 109.95$ (2009) | Sprint Run, Spyderco Forum Knife 2009 | 300 | Full Flat | Metal, Barrel bolt | LH/RH, TU |
Variations of the Native SS (Generation 2)
All Native SSs are made in Seki-City, Japan.
SKU | Handle | Edge(s) | Steel | From/To | MSRP | Note | Number made | Grind | Clip | Clip positions | Collectors club |
C41 | Stainless Steel | PE PS | AUS-10 | 1998-2007: PS, 2002: PE | 94.95$ (2004) | N/A | Hollow | Metal, Barrel bolt | LH/RH, TU |
Variations of the Native 4 (Generation 4)
All Native 4s are made in Seki-City, Japan.
SKU | Handle | Edge(s) | Steel | From/To | MSRP | Note | Number made | Grind | Clip | Clip positions | Collectors club |
C41CFP | Black CF | PE | VG-10 | 2008-2009 | 259.95$ (2009) | N/A | Hollow | Metal, 4-way | LH/RH, TD/TU |
Variations of the Native 5 (Generation 5)
All Native 5s are made in Golden, Colorado.
SKU | Handle | Edge(s) | Steel | From/To | MSRP | Note | Number made | Grind | Clip | Clip positions | Collectors club |
C41G5 | Black G-10 | PE | CPM-S35VN | 2011- | 199.95$ (2011) | N/A | Full Flat | Metal, 4-way | LH/RH, TD/TU | ||
C41TIFP | Fluted Ti | PE | CPM-S35VN | 2012 | 369.95$ (2012) | N/A | Full Flat | Metal, 4-way | LH/RH, TD/TU |
Other variations
The following variations are all made in Golden, U.S.A.
SKU | Handle | Edge(s) | Steel | From/To | MSRP | Note | Number made | Grind | Clip | Clip positions | Collectors club |
C41GBL | Blue G-10 | PE PS | CPM-440V | 1999-? | 139.95$ | 700 total?; 300 special for BladeForum-numbered, 200 for collectors, 200 to dealers | Hollow | Metal, Barrel bolt | LH/RH, TU | ||
C41GPI | Black G-10 with Blue Mosaic Inlay | PE | CPM-440V | 2000 | 139.95$ (2000) | Sprint | 500, numbered | Hollow | Metal, Barrel bolt | RH, TU | |
C41GPSI | Black G-10 with Root Beer Inlay | PS | CPM-440V | 2000 | 139.95$ (2000) | Sprint | 500, numbered | Hollow | Metal, Barrel bolt | RH, TU |
Most collectible variation
Questions regarding collecting the C41
Some interesting questions we are looking for an answer to:
Are the early Native SS made in Golden, U.S.A., as indicated in 1999 catalog? If yes, till when?
Questions with an answer:
Technical information
Measurements (mm and grams) of the C41 Native:
Variation | Length overall | Length closed | Length blade | Length edge | Hole Ø | Blade thickness | Weight |
C41 FRN (1997-2003), 1st generation | 178mm | 97mm | 80mm | 64mm | 12mm | 3mm | 68g |
C41 FRN (2004-), 1st generation | 178mm | 100mm | 80mm | 67mm | 12mm | 3mm | 75.2g |
C41, 2nd generation | 178mm | 97mm | 80mm | 64mm | 12mm | 3mm | 131g |
C41 CF, 4th generation | 178mm | 100mm | 76mm | 64mm | 12mm | 3mm | 89g |
C41G5, 5th generation | 175mm | 102mm | 76mm | 62mm | 13mm | 3mm | 105g |
C41TIFP, 5th generation | 175mm | 102mm | 76mm | 62mm | 13mm | 3mm | 117g |
Measurements (inches and ounces) of the C41 Native:
Variation | Length overall | Length closed | Length blade | Length edge | Hole Ø | Blade thickness | Weight |
C41 FRN (1997-2003), 1st generation | 7" | 3 7/8" | 3 1/8" | 2 1/2" | 15/32" | 1/8" | 2.4oz |
C41 FRN (2004-), 1st generation | 7" | 3 15/16" | 3 1/8" | 2 5/8" | 15/32" | 1/8" | 2.65oz |
C41, 2nd generation | 7" | 3 7/8" | 3 1/8" | 2 1/2" | 15/32" | 1/8" | 4.6oz |
C41 CF, 4th generation | 7" | 3 15/16" | 3" | 2 1/2" | 15/32" | 1/8" | 3.2oz |
C41G5, 5th generation | 6 7/8" | 4" | 3" | 2 7/16" | 1/2" | 1/8" | 3.7oz |
C41TIFP, 5th generation | 6 7/8" | 4" | 3" | 2 7/16" | 1/2" | 1/8" | 4.1oz |
References
- ↑ The C41BK Native in Spyderco's online catalog
- ↑ The C41BBK Native in Spyderco's online catalog
- ↑ The C41PN Native in Spyderco's online catalog
- ↑ The C41TN Native in Spyderco's online catalog
- ↑ The C41 Native Stainless Steel in Spyderco's online catalog
- ↑ The C41CF Native 4 in Spyderco's online catalog
- ↑ The C41PPR Native Forum 2009 in Spyderco's online catalog
- ↑ The C41G5 Native5 in Spyderco's online catalog
Pictures
See e.g. the "Native appreciation" thread on the Spyderco forums.