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==Information from the Spyderco catalog on the web==
==Information from the Spyderco catalog on the web==


'''C69 Lil' Temperance'''
'''C69 Lil' Temperance/Lil' Temperance 2'''


''"The Spyderco Stretch has changed over the years much like watching one of your kids grow up. What started as a small basic Hunter model in the 1980s matured/stretched into an elegant high performance drop point folder available in a variety of handle materials and blade steels. The latest is a lightweight model with a black FRN (fiberglass reinforced nylon) handle. The VG-10 modified drop-point blade is ground thin and fully-flat with an arcing belly, installing itself as a winner for outdoor endeavors and carrying everyday. Turned-out with a mid-spine positioned back lock the FRN handle is injection molded and surfaced with Bi-Directional Texturing® When the palm meets the texturing tactile resistance results, stopping in its tracks forward or backward sliding under harsh, wet or slippery cutting circumstances."''<ref name="current catalog">The C90BK in [http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=422]</ref>
''"A little temperance is a good thing" -- Sal Glesser, Spyderco's founder.''


See also:
''The Lil' Temperance folder was designed to deliver high-performance, no-nonsense features needed for MBC or a heavily used EDC. Using the name 'Lil' is a play on words, as the features this model offer are those commonly found on large knives: An MBC strength rated, superior materials, ergonomics all in 'Lil' compact package.''
C90
<ref name="current catalog2">The C90 steel/Kraton Stretch in [http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=166 Spyderco's online catalog]</ref>,
C90CF
<ref name="current catalog3">The C90CF Carbon Fiber Stretch in [http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=278 Spyderco's online catalog]</ref>,
C90BL
<ref name="current catalog4">The C90BL ZDP-189 Stretch in [http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=432 Spyderco's online catalog]</ref>.


'''C69 Lil' Temperance 2'''
''Features include: A socially friendly three inches of CPM S30V blade that is flat-ground. By keeping the blade small to medium in size, the model draws less interest when taken out and used in public. It's also thicker than most production blades at 4mm, with the diameter of the Spyderco Round Hole enlarged to 14mm for big or gloved hands. Recessed contouring milled out of the green G-10 handle and a prominent quillion provide substantial grip surface with enough angles to really wrap the hand around, hold on tightly and muscle down while cutting. Because the folder is for heavy use and MBC applications it has a Compression Lock -- the strongest, highest weight bearing locking system Spyderco manufactures. To lessen wear and tear on a pocket, the clip is rolled along the edges and positions tip-up or down. Three indexing divots (these are mirrored on the opposite side of the handle as well) are for rotating hand-holds during MBC practice and drills. A real scrapper designed to be overworked and still fall within legal blade length limits in most municipalities.''


''The Stretch 2 is the result of a long evolutionary process that began in 1983 with the original C03 Hunter™ model. Spyderco’s first knife with a drop-point blade—a style preferred by many outdoorsmen for processing game—the basic Hunter design was refined over the years and spawned a number of other models, including the Stretch™. Now that evolution has gone a step further to yield the Stretch 2.''
''Made in Golden, Colorado.''


''The Stretch 2 is a reflection of the feedback Spyderco gets from the many hardcore hunters who regularly use our knives in the field. Its new profile features a slightly longer handle for increased leverage, refined ergonomics to reduce fatigue during prolonged use, and a deeper index-finger choil for an enhanced purchase with a “choked up” grip. Collectively, these subtle changes improve the user’s control over the knife—especially when it is used to process game in harsh field conditions. For increased heft, the Stretch 2 features full skeletonized stainless steel liners, textured G-10 scales, and a four-position hourglass clip. Like all the predecessors in its lineage, it also features a high-strength back lock mechanism that locks the ultra-high-carbon ZDP-189 blade securely open during use and, along with its other features, makes operation of the knife completely ambidextrous.''
The C69 Lil' Temperance/Lil' Temperance 2 in [https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C69G/27 Spyderco's online catalog].
 
''The Stretch 2 is an extremely refined all-purpose folding knife that is ideally suited to the needs of hunters and outdoorsmen. It also reflects a proud lineage and one of the richest histories in the Spyderco product line.''
 
The C69 Lil' Temperance 2 in [http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=923 Spyderco's online catalog].




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==Variations==
==Variations==


The C69 Lil' Temperance is made in Seki-City, Japan and has
The C69 Lil' Temperance uses
* a [[Leaf shaped]] blade
* a [[Compression Lock]]


===C69 Lil' Temperance===
===C69 Lil' Temperance===
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{{Tableheading}}'''[[Collectors club]]'''
{{Tableheading}}'''[[Collectors club]]'''
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|valign="top" |C69
|valign="top" |C69GP
|valign="top" |[[Stainless Steel]] [[Kraton]]
|valign="top" |Milled green [[G-10]]
|valign="top" |[[PE]]
|valign="top" |[[PE]]
|valign="top" |[[VG-10]]
|valign="top" |[[CPM-440V]]
|valign="top" |2004-2006
|valign="top" |2001-2002
|valign="top" |164,95$ (2006)
|valign="top" |349.95$ (2015)
|valign="top" |[[Back Lock]] with [[Boye dent]]
|valign="top" |[[Leaf shaped]] blade. Made in Golden, CO. Used [[CPM-440V]] steel through at least early 2002, possibly later.
|valign="top" |N/A
|valign="top" |N/A
|valign="top" |[[Full Flat]]
|valign="top" |[[Full Flat]]
|valign="top" |Chrome [[4-way]]
|valign="top" |Silver 3-hole custom clip with "SAL" makers mark.
|valign="top" |[[LH/RH]], [[TD/TU]]
|valign="top" |[[RH]], [[TD/TU]]
|valign="top" |[[Main]]
 
|-
|valign="top" |C69GP
|valign="top" |Milled green [[G-10]]
|valign="top" |[[PE]]
|valign="top" |[[CPM-440V]] (2001-2002), [[CPM-S30V]] (2002-2004)
|valign="top" |2003-2004
|valign="top" |349.95$ (2015)
|valign="top" |[[Leaf shaped]] blade. Made in Golden, CO. Switched to [[CPM-S30V]] steel sometime in 2002 or 2003.
|valign="top" |N/A
|valign="top" |[[Full Flat]]
|valign="top" |Silver 3-hole custom clip with "SAL" makers mark.
|valign="top" |[[RH]], [[TD/TU]]
|valign="top" |N/A
|valign="top" |N/A
|}
|}
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|-
|-
|valign="top" |C90GBNPE2
|valign="top" |C69GP2
|valign="top" |Brown [[G-10]]
|valign="top" |Milled green [[G-10]]
|valign="top" |[[PE]]
|valign="top" |[[PE]]
|valign="top" |[[ZDP-189]]
|valign="top" |[[CPM-440V]]
|valign="top" |May 2015-
|valign="top" |2001-2004
|valign="top" |349.95$ (2015)
|valign="top" |349.95$ (2015)
|valign="top" |[[Back Lock]] with [[Boye dent]]
|valign="top" |Trailing point shaped blade. Made in Golden, CO.
|valign="top" |N/A
|valign="top" |N/A
|valign="top" |[[Full Flat]]
|valign="top" |[[Full Flat]]
|valign="top" |Black [[4-way]] [[Hourglass]]
|valign="top" |Silver 3-hole custom clip with "SAL" makers mark.
|valign="top" |[[LH/RH]], [[TD/TU]]
|valign="top" |[[RH]], [[TD/TU]]
|valign="top" |[[Main]]
|valign="top" |[[Variant]]
|}
|}


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|valign="top" |Mar. 2017-
|valign="top" |Mar. 2017-
|valign="top" |319.95$ (2017)
|valign="top" |319.95$ (2017)
|valign="top" |[[Compression Lock]]
|valign="top" |[[Leaf shaped]] blade. Made in Seki-City, Japan.
|valign="top" |Regular production
|valign="top" |Regular production
|valign="top" |[[Full Flat]]
|valign="top" |[[Full Flat]]
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|-
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance
|align="right"|202mm
|align="right"|183mm
|align="right"|113mm
|align="right"|114mm
|align="right"|89mm
|align="right"|78mm
|align="right"|81mm
|align="right"|76mm
|align="right"|14mm
|align="right"|mm
|align="right"|3mm
|align="right"|4mm
|align="right"|95g
|align="right"|130g


|-
|-
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance 2
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance 2
|align="right"|207mm
|align="right"|183mm
|align="right"|120mm
|align="right"|114mm
|align="right"|88mm
|align="right"|78mm
|align="right"|75mm
|align="right"|76mm
|align="right"|14mm
|align="right"|mm
|align="right"|3mm
|align="right"|4mm
|align="right"|105g
|align="right"|g


|-
|-
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance 3
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance 3
|align="right"|208mm
|align="right"|185mm
|align="right"|118mm
|align="right"|112mm
|align="right"|91mm
|align="right"|74mm
|align="right"|79mm
|align="right"|74mm
|align="right"|14mm
|align="right"|?
|align="right"|3mm
|align="right"|4mm
|align="right"|10g
|align="right"|113g
|}
|}


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|align="left"|Lil' Temperance
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance
|align="right"|7.188"
|align="right"|4.50"
|align="right"|3.063"
|align="right"|3.00"
|align="right"|
|align="right"|
|align="right"|
|align="right"|0.156"
|align="right"|
|align="right"|4.6oz
|align="right"|
|align="right"|
|align="right"|
|align="right"|


|-
|-
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance 2
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance 2
|align="right"|7.188"
|align="right"|4.50"
|align="right"|3.063"
|align="right"|3.00"
|align="right"|
|align="right"|
|align="right"|
|align="right"|0.156"
|align="right"|
|align="right"|4.6oz
|align="right"|
|align="right"|
|align="right"|
|align="right"|


|-
|-
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance 3
|align="left"|Lil' Temperance 3
|align="right"|7 15/16"
|align="right"|7.30"
|align="right"|4 7/16"
|align="right"|4.40"
|align="right"|3 1/2"
|align="right"|2.90"
|align="right"|3 3/16"
|align="right"|2.90"
|align="right"|9/16"
|align="right"|?
|align="right"|1/8"
|align="right"|0.157"
|align="right"|3.4oz
|align="right"|4.0oz
|}
|}



Revision as of 00:34, 27 March 2017

PAGE IN PROGRESS - COPIED TEMPLATE FROM STRETCH PAGE AND AM CHANGING IT OVER TO THE C69

The C69 Lil' Temperance started as a folding version of the Temperance fixed blade design.

Appearance in catalogs

The C69 Lil' Temperance first appeared in the 2009 Spyderco Mid-Year Spyderco Catalog Supplement.

Designer

Sal Glesser

History, mentionings from the forums etc.

The Stretch CF/FRN is often referred to as the "Stretch 2" or "Stretch II", while the FRN version is also additionally known as the "Stretch Lightweight". This "Stretch 2" nomenclature was adopted by the Spyderco forum, but was incorrect, as these versions of the Stretch were based on the same pattern as the Stainless Steel and Krayton version and were therefore variations on the original Stretch. The true Stretch 2 came about with the brown G-10 version, which implemented design changes and used a new pattern, so became a true generational change. This was clarified by Sal after some discussion and research.

On the Spyderco forums:

Information from the Spyderco catalog on the web

C69 Lil' Temperance/Lil' Temperance 2

"A little temperance is a good thing" -- Sal Glesser, Spyderco's founder.

The Lil' Temperance folder was designed to deliver high-performance, no-nonsense features needed for MBC or a heavily used EDC. Using the name 'Lil' is a play on words, as the features this model offer are those commonly found on large knives: An MBC strength rated, superior materials, ergonomics all in 'Lil' compact package.

Features include: A socially friendly three inches of CPM S30V blade that is flat-ground. By keeping the blade small to medium in size, the model draws less interest when taken out and used in public. It's also thicker than most production blades at 4mm, with the diameter of the Spyderco Round Hole enlarged to 14mm for big or gloved hands. Recessed contouring milled out of the green G-10 handle and a prominent quillion provide substantial grip surface with enough angles to really wrap the hand around, hold on tightly and muscle down while cutting. Because the folder is for heavy use and MBC applications it has a Compression Lock -- the strongest, highest weight bearing locking system Spyderco manufactures. To lessen wear and tear on a pocket, the clip is rolled along the edges and positions tip-up or down. Three indexing divots (these are mirrored on the opposite side of the handle as well) are for rotating hand-holds during MBC practice and drills. A real scrapper designed to be overworked and still fall within legal blade length limits in most municipalities.

Made in Golden, Colorado.

The C69 Lil' Temperance/Lil' Temperance 2 in Spyderco's online catalog.


C69 Lil' Temperance 3

"Spyderco’s original Lil’ Temperance and Lil’ Temperance 2 took the high-performance qualities of our iconic Temperance™ fixed blade and distilled them into a powerhouse folding knife. Now the Lil’ Temperance 3 revives this classic design in a leaner, simpler form that is ideal for both utilitarian and personal-defense use.

The Lil’ Temperance 3’s broad, leaf-shaped blade is full-flat ground from CPM S30V particle metallurgy stainless steel, giving it an incredible balance of strength, edge geometry, corrosion resistance, and low-friction cutting performance. Its minimal ricasso (the unbeveled portion of the blade near its base) maximizes the length of the cutting edge, while a fully accessible Trademark Round Hole™ allows high-speed one-handed opening of the blade with either hand.

Spyderco’s patented Compression Lock™ mechanism locks the blade securely open during use and also allows safe, easy, one-handed closing. This high-strength lock is built on a foundation of sturdy stainless steel liners nested into CNC-machined recesses in the handle’s textured G-10 scales. In keeping with the design’s original spirit as a potential personal-defense tool, each scale includes a single indexing “divot” that aligns precisely with the concave portion of the knife’s four-position pocket clip to provide a pivot axis for grip-change maneuvers. The clip itself is Spyderco’s time-tested hourglass design and can be easily configured for either left or right-side, tip-up or tip-down carry.

The Lil’ Temperance 3 is both a rebirth and a significant evolution of a true Spyderco classic. It faithfully honors the spirit of the original design, while incorporating a number of significant refinements that make it even more functional and capable."

The C69 Lil' Temperance 3 in Spyderco's online catalog.


Variations

The C69 Lil' Temperance uses

C69 Lil' Temperance

SKU Handle Edge Steel From/To MSRP Note Number made Grind Clip Clip positions Collectors club
C69GP Milled green G-10 PE CPM-440V 2001-2002 349.95$ (2015) Leaf shaped blade. Made in Golden, CO. Used CPM-440V steel through at least early 2002, possibly later. N/A Full Flat Silver 3-hole custom clip with "SAL" makers mark. RH, TD/TU Main
C69GP Milled green G-10 PE CPM-440V (2001-2002), CPM-S30V (2002-2004) 2003-2004 349.95$ (2015) Leaf shaped blade. Made in Golden, CO. Switched to CPM-S30V steel sometime in 2002 or 2003. N/A Full Flat Silver 3-hole custom clip with "SAL" makers mark. RH, TD/TU N/A

C69 Lil' Temperance 2

SKU Handle Edge Steel From/To MSRP Note Number made Grind Clip Clip positions Collectors club
C69GP2 Milled green G-10 PE CPM-440V 2001-2004 349.95$ (2015) Trailing point shaped blade. Made in Golden, CO. N/A Full Flat Silver 3-hole custom clip with "SAL" makers mark. RH, TD/TU Variant

C69 Lil' Temperance 3

SKU Handle Edge Steel From/To MSRP Note Number made Grind Clip Clip positions Collectors club
C69GP3 Black G-10 PE CPM-S30V Mar. 2017- 319.95$ (2017) Leaf shaped blade. Made in Seki-City, Japan. Regular production Full Flat Black 4-way Hourglass LH/RH, TD/TU Main

Most collectible variation

Questions regarding collecting the C69

Some interesting questions we are looking for an answer to:

Questions with an answer:

Technical information

Measurements (mm and grams) of the C69 Lil' Temperance

Variations Length overall Length closed Length blade Length edge Hole Ø Blade thickness Weight
Lil' Temperance 183mm 114mm 78mm 76mm mm 4mm 130g
Lil' Temperance 2 183mm 114mm 78mm 76mm mm 4mm g
Lil' Temperance 3 185mm 112mm 74mm 74mm ? 4mm 113g

Measurements (inches and ounces) of the C69 Lil' Temperance:

Variations Length overall Length closed Length blade Length edge Hole Ø Blade thickness Weight
Lil' Temperance 7.188" 4.50" 3.063" 3.00" 0.156" 4.6oz
Lil' Temperance 2 7.188" 4.50" 3.063" 3.00" 0.156" 4.6oz
Lil' Temperance 3 7.30" 4.40" 2.90" 2.90" ? 0.157" 4.0oz

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