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[[Image:C22P_Michael_Walker_matt_carbon_102.jpg‎|right|thumb|320px|The [[CF]] C22 Michael Walker]]
The C22 Michael Walker with [[carbon fiber]] handles was first introduced in 1994. In 1996 a Lightweight variation was introduced, initially denoted as [[C37 Michael Walker Lightweight]], this variation's [[SKU]] was changed to C22BK in 2000. In late 1997 the [[CX06 Experimental 6]] batch of the Michael Walker design was produced, featuring black almite coated aluminum handles. In a 2005 Sprint run another variation with blue almite coated aluminum handles was produced.
The C22 Michael Walker with [[carbon fiber]] handles was first introduced in 1994. In 1996 a Lightweight variation was introduced, initially denoted as [[C37 Michael Walker Lightweight]], this variation's [[SKU]] was changed to C22BK in 2000. In late 1997 the [[CX06 Experimental 6]] batch of the Michael Walker design was produced, featuring black almite coated aluminum handles. In a 2005 Sprint run another variation with blue almite coated aluminum handles was produced.


==Appearance in catalogs==
==Appearance in catalogs==


The C22 Michael Walker appeared in the following [http://www.spydie.nl/catalogs/ catalogs]:
The C22 Michael Walker appears in the following [http://www.spydie.nl/catalogs/ catalogs]:
* 1994 Spyderco (CF)
* 1994 Spyderco ([[CF]])
* 1997 Spyderco (CF, Lightweight)
* 1997 Spyderco ([[CF]], Lightweight)
* 1998 Spyderco (CF, Lightweight)
* 1998 Spyderco ([[CF]], Lightweight)
* 1998? Ironstone (Black Almite CX06)
* 1998? Ironstone (Black [[Almite]] CX06)
* 1999 Spyderco (CF, Lightweight)
* 1999 Spyderco (CF, Lightweight)
* 2000 Spyderco (Lightweight)
* 2000 Spyderco (Lightweight)
* 2005 Sprint Runs (Blue Almite)
* 2005 Sprint Runs (Blue [[Almite]])


==Designer==
==Designer==
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==History, mentionings from the forums etc.==
==History, mentionings from the forums etc.==
'''C22CF'''


Extracted from a post<ref name="SF2">[http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showpost.php?p=101534&postcount=14 2004 post] by Sal on the Spyderco forum</ref> by "sal" on the Spyderco Forum:
Extracted from a post<ref name="SF2">[http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showpost.php?p=101534&postcount=14 2004 post] by Sal on the Spyderco forum</ref> by "sal" on the Spyderco Forum:
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Historic information provided by HP Klotzli<ref name="email-hpk">Information provided by HP Klotzli (per email to the Author, 2009/03/24)</ref> (email communication 2009/03/24, informal translation from German):
* A total of 1165 C22CF were produced.
* The exact numbers per edge grind type cannot be determined anymore. The Spyderco order consisted of 500x [[PE]] and 500x [[PS]].
* Klotzli delivered knives with "naked" blades to Spyderco. Spyderco did the engravings and numbering on the blades.
* Glossy vs. matte carbon handles: Spyderco's quality demands were high. Initially only perfect carbon handles with the glossy surface were accepted. That resulted in more than 50% wastage with the carbon. Klotzli then started matting the carbon handles, so that fine scratches (that were unavoidable during production) disappeared.
* "Klotzli" vs. "Swiss made" engravings on the blade: Initially it was agreed that all three names should appear on the blade: Spyderco, Walker, Klotzli. At some point Spyderco stopped putting Klotzli on the blade (and used "Swiss made" instead).
* The Klotzlis are not in possession of the drawing by Bea Klotzli of the larger version of the C22.
'''Other C22s'''


* [http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14200 Almite Walker CX06PS Experimental Photos] thread in the Spyderco forum
* [http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14200 Almite Walker CX06PS Experimental Photos] thread in the Spyderco forum
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The C22 features a [[Walker Liner Lock]] and a [[spear point]] shaped blade.
The C22 features a [[Walker Liner Lock]] and a [[spear point]] shaped blade.


The C22 with [[CF]] handles and titanium liners were made in Switzerland by [http://www.klotzli.com Klotzli] and each one is individually numbered. Two [[CF]] handle types exist:
The C22 with [[CF]] handles and titanium liners were made in Switzerland by [http://www.klotzli.com Klotzli]. Spyderco individually numbered them (exceptions?). Two [[CF]] handle types exist:
* [[CF]] glossy and some without numbers.
* [[CF]] glossy (and some without numbers?)
* [[CF]] matte
* [[CF]] matte
There seems to be a tendency that earlier C22s with [[CF]] have glossy (shiny, polished) handles and later ones matte. There are also two types of engravings (1-1500? engraved and 1501-? lasered?) on the blade: The "Klötzli" put on earlier blades was later replaced by "Swiss Made". Several reports on the number of carbon fiber C22 produced exist (~1000, ~1500, >1500). C22s with an engraved number in the 1700-1799 range has been reported.
Earlier produced C22s with [[CF]] have glossy (shiny, polished) handles and later ones matte. There are also two types of engravings on the blade: The "Klötzli" put on earlier blades was later replaced by "Swiss Made".
There also exist C22CF blades with lasered names and number instead of engraved (in the [1500,1699] range?).
C22s with an engraved number in the 1700-1799 range have been reported.


All other C22 variations (incl. CX06) were made in Seki-City, Japan.
All other C22 variations (incl. CX06) were made in Seki-City, Japan.
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{{tableheading}}'''[[Collectors club]]'''
{{tableheading}}'''[[Collectors club]]'''
|-
|-
|valign="top" |C22
|valign="top" |C22CF
|valign="top" |Black [[CF]] (glossy and matte variants)
|valign="top" |Black [[CF]] (glossy and matte variants)
|valign="top" |[[PE]] [[PS]]
|valign="top" |[[PE]] [[PS]]
|valign="top" |[[ATS-34]]
|valign="top" |[[ATS-34]]
|valign="top" |1994-1998
|valign="top" |1994-1998
|valign="top" |299.95$ (?), 455.95$ (1999)
|valign="top" |299.95$ (1994), 455.95$ (1999)
|valign="top" |Swiss made
|valign="top" |Swiss made; "Klotzli" or "Swiss Made" on the blade.  Blue anodized [[Ti]] screws and liner lock.
|valign="top" |<1500? glossy, <500? matte
|valign="top" |1165 total<ref name="email-hpk">Information provided by HP Klotzli (per email to the Author, 2009/03/24)</ref>, >500x [[PE]], >500x [[PS]]
|valign="top" |[[Hollow]]
|valign="top" |[[Hollow]]
|valign="top" |Metal
|valign="top" |Blue anodized [[Ti]]
|valign="top" |[[RH]], [[TD]]
|valign="top" |[[RH]], [[TD]]
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|1000?
|1000?
|[[Hollow]]
|[[Hollow]]
|Metal
|Chrome [[3- screw old standard clip]]
|[[RH]], [[TD]]
|[[RH]], [[TD]]
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|1000
|1000
|[[Hollow]]
|[[Hollow]]
|Metal
|[[J- clip]]
|[[RH]], [[TU]]
|[[RH]], [[TU]]
|
|
|}
|}


==Most collectible variation==
==[[Most collectible variation]]==


The low number early ones or the later ones which there exist relatively fewer of is believed to be the most collectible variations, although one might say all C22's are collectible for several reasons as listed above!
The low numbered early ones or the later ones are believed to be the most collectible variations, although one might say all C22's are collectible for several reasons as listed above!


===Questions regarding collecting the C22===
===Questions regarding collecting the C22===
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Image:C22BLP-top.jpg|C22BLP top view
Image:C22BLP-top.jpg|C22BLP top view
Image:C22BLP-bottom.jpg|C22BLP bottom view
Image:C22BLP-bottom.jpg|C22BLP bottom view
</gallery>
<gallery>
Image:C22CF detail1.jpg|C22CFPS handle detail
Image:C22CF detail2.jpg|C22CFPS lock detail
Image:C22CF detail3.jpg|C22CFPS clip detail
Image:C22CF detail4.jpg|C22CFPS blade detail
</gallery>
<gallery>
Image:C22P Michael Walker matt carbon 102.jpg|C22P Michael Walker matt carbon
Image:C22P Michael Walker matt carbon 106.jpg|C22P Michael Walker matt carbon
Image:C37PBK+PSBK Michael Walker lightweight 102.jpg|C22PBK + C22PSBK Michael Walker Lightweight
Image:C37PSBK Michael Walker lightweight.jpg|C22PSBK Michael Walker Lightweight
</gallery>
</gallery>



Latest revision as of 05:51, 29 April 2015

The CF C22 Michael Walker

The C22 Michael Walker with carbon fiber handles was first introduced in 1994. In 1996 a Lightweight variation was introduced, initially denoted as C37 Michael Walker Lightweight, this variation's SKU was changed to C22BK in 2000. In late 1997 the CX06 Experimental 6 batch of the Michael Walker design was produced, featuring black almite coated aluminum handles. In a 2005 Sprint run another variation with blue almite coated aluminum handles was produced.

Appearance in catalogs

The C22 Michael Walker appears in the following catalogs:

  • 1994 Spyderco (CF)
  • 1997 Spyderco (CF, Lightweight)
  • 1998 Spyderco (CF, Lightweight)
  • 1998? Ironstone (Black Almite CX06)
  • 1999 Spyderco (CF, Lightweight)
  • 2000 Spyderco (Lightweight)
  • 2005 Sprint Runs (Blue Almite)

Designer

Michael Walker

Michael Walker Makers mark


History, mentionings from the forums etc.

C22CF

Extracted from a post[1] by "sal" on the Spyderco Forum:

"...
The Michael Walker C22. A Spyderco, Michael Walker, HP Klotzli collaboration. Early 90's.
First production carbon fiber handle.
First production nested Walker-linerlock.
First production colored titanium.
Only Swiss made production Spyderco.
Custom made phosphure bronze pivot.
The Carbon fiber came from the Sauber F1 race team.
The knife was built for us by HP Klotzli.
My wife, Gail carries one as an EDC.
..."

Extracted from another post[2] by "sal" on the Spyderco Forum:

"...
HP Klotzli came up with the idea for a Walker/Spyderco collaboration. He also swanted to build it. It was his idea to
use carbon fiber and he worked with Michael to develop manufacturing methods. I worked with Michael on the design.
Michael is quite a genius.
HP made the knives for Spyderco. We made the ATS-34 blades in Golden and shipped them to Switzerland. He
developed the carbon fiber and titanium mfg methods. HP does great work.
We thought about working with HP to make a slightly larger version of the C22 Walker. His wife Beah, had drawn a
beautiful larger version by incrementally extending the pattern.
..."

Historic information provided by HP Klotzli[3] (email communication 2009/03/24, informal translation from German):

  • A total of 1165 C22CF were produced.
  • The exact numbers per edge grind type cannot be determined anymore. The Spyderco order consisted of 500x PE and 500x PS.
  • Klotzli delivered knives with "naked" blades to Spyderco. Spyderco did the engravings and numbering on the blades.
  • Glossy vs. matte carbon handles: Spyderco's quality demands were high. Initially only perfect carbon handles with the glossy surface were accepted. That resulted in more than 50% wastage with the carbon. Klotzli then started matting the carbon handles, so that fine scratches (that were unavoidable during production) disappeared.
  • "Klotzli" vs. "Swiss made" engravings on the blade: Initially it was agreed that all three names should appear on the blade: Spyderco, Walker, Klotzli. At some point Spyderco stopped putting Klotzli on the blade (and used "Swiss made" instead).
  • The Klotzlis are not in possession of the drawing by Bea Klotzli of the larger version of the C22.


Other C22s

Information from the Spyderco catalog on the web

Not listed.

Variations

The C22 features a Walker Liner Lock and a spear point shaped blade.

The C22 with CF handles and titanium liners were made in Switzerland by Klotzli. Spyderco individually numbered them (exceptions?). Two CF handle types exist:

  • CF glossy (and some without numbers?)
  • CF matte

Earlier produced C22s with CF have glossy (shiny, polished) handles and later ones matte. There are also two types of engravings on the blade: The "Klötzli" put on earlier blades was later replaced by "Swiss Made". There also exist C22CF blades with lasered names and number instead of engraved (in the [1500,1699] range?). C22s with an engraved number in the 1700-1799 range have been reported.

All other C22 variations (incl. CX06) were made in Seki-City, Japan.

SKU Handle Edge Steel From/To MSRP Note Number made Grind Clip Clip positions Collectors club
C22CF Black CF (glossy and matte variants) PE PS ATS-34 1994-1998 299.95$ (1994), 455.95$ (1999) Swiss made; "Klotzli" or "Swiss Made" on the blade. Blue anodized Ti screws and liner lock. 1165 total[3], >500x PE, >500x PS Hollow Blue anodized Ti RH, TD
C22BK Black FRN PE PS AUS-8 1996-2000 64.95$ before 2000: C37 N/A Hollow Integral FRN RH, ?
C22 (CX06) Black Almite coated Aluminum PE PS AUS-8 late 1997 79.95$ Ironstone only 1000? Hollow Chrome 3- screw old standard clip RH, TD
C22BLP Blue Almite coated Aluminum PE VG-10 2005 99.95$ Sprint 1000 Hollow J- clip RH, TU

Most collectible variation

The low numbered early ones or the later ones are believed to be the most collectible variations, although one might say all C22's are collectible for several reasons as listed above!

Questions regarding collecting the C22

Some interesting questions we are looking for an answer to:

Questions with an answer:

Technical information

Measurements (mm and grams) of the C22 Michael Walker:

Variations Length overall Length closed Length blade Length edge Hole Ø Blade thickness Weight
C22CF 149mm 84mm 64mm 60mm 12mm 2.4mm 42g
C22BK, CX06, C22BL 156mm 92mm 64mm 60mm 12mm 2.4mm 44g

Measurements (inches and ounces) of the C22 Michael Walker:

Variations Length overall Length closed Length blade Length edge Hole Ø Blade thickness Weight
C22CF 5 7/8" 3 5/16" 2 1/2" 2 3/8" 15/32" 3/32" 1.5oz
C22BK, CX06, C22BL 6 1/8" 3 5/8" 2 1/2" 2 3/8" 15/32" 3/32" 1.6oz

References

  1. 2004 post by Sal on the Spyderco forum
  2. 2007 post by Sal on the Spyderco forum
  3. 3.0 3.1 Information provided by HP Klotzli (per email to the Author, 2009/03/24)

Pictures

4 variations of the C22 (and/or C37 Michael Walker Lightweight ) model From the top:

  1. C22CFP Michael Walker Carbonfibre and titanium
  2. C22PBK (Which used to be C37 Michael Walker lightweight)
  3. C22BLP
  4. CX06P Ironstone Exclusive model

C22 C37 Michael Walker.JPG


The C22CFP is distributed in a black pouch:

C22CF-pouch.jpg


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